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Table of Contents Opinions of Two Veterans................................. 1 I Can Remember o Day..................................... 2 Drop Outs or Cop Outs? .................................. 3 The Draft ............................................... 4 History of ROTC ot WSU-SP ............................... 6 Militaristic ond Pacifists----Irrational? ............... 7 Reflections on the Student and Peace.................... 10 Miss Stevens Point Pageant............................... 12 Arts and Lectures........................................ 14 Sports ................................................. 18 Organizations ........................................... 23 Senior Photos .......................................... 31 Peace Studies Curriculum.........................Back Cover Staff editor MARC VOLLRATH assistant editor MARSHA LINDSAY photo editor photo stoff MIKE BAHN DANIEL PERRET BILL MITCHELL design stoff design editor ort work PAT TYLKA SUE CREVCOURE JOHN LEUM MARY HOULIHAN theme reporters BRIAN SHUMWAY MARY MAHER CATHY MORTENSON LAURA THILL NANCY CORDY PAULA TORGESON LINDA BLISS SANDY HEMAUER organizations SUE MOUSHEY arts lectures NANCY KREI advisor BILL WITT, Communication Department IRIS 71 War and Peace Issue
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WAR AND PEACE - - - THE OPINIONS OF TWO VETERANS BY BRIAN SHUMWAY In war and in peace everyone has his opinion about the military and war. Many have never been in the military service and some never ask a veteran of the military how he feels, cither because he knows of no one in the military but mainly perhaps because people feel that a military person has fixed ideas about the military and war. Mike Bahn and Tom Van Drasek are students of WSU and both veterans. Here are some of the things they had to say about war and peace. Tom and Mike both enlisted, and for the most part they felt that they did not get a raw deal from the recruiter, although Tom felt that the recruiter told them nothing in terms of what to expect as far as military life. Tom termed the recruiter as being ambiguous about what to expect.” Both veterans were members of the Air Force. They felt that the basic training they went through was more of a mental discipline than physical. These vets were quick to point out that such was not the case of combat oriented branches of the service such as the Army or Marines, where emphasis is on action derived by direct order and to obey instantly. Basic training, the vets found, was more inconvenient than anything else. Basic training is more of a common denominator according to Mike Bahn, where everyone, by means of haircuts, uniform, and control of their lives, is placed on an equal basis. Both vets felt that the schooling once they got out of basic training was adequate to very good. Mike was a Vietnamese translator-interpreter and spent over a year training in the field. Tom Van Drasek felt that in a democratic manner there must be some relexation of the strict discipline. Mike felt that strict discipline is a necessity for some people in the service, but for most this discipline is unnecessary. Both Tom and Mike felt that the best experience they got out of the service was the chance to travel abroad. Mike was in Viet Nam and enjoyed talking to the Vietnamese peasants. Tom was stationed in Korea and enjoyed the chance to travel in that country. Tom said you may not see the best places or people at their best, but you do see new things. Tom and Mike could not think of a really bad experience in the service, but Mike related some-tiling that one of his friends said to him about their flying duty in the service. It's hours of sheer boredom, moments of sheer terror.” I remember a friend of mine who was in Viet Nam and in the first 12 days of his stay he was rocketed and bombed 8 of those 12 days. What about the war in Viet Nam? Tom felt that right now we should not be there and that the war in Southeast Asia is ridiculous. Tom also felt that in 1961 and in the present there were times when we could have helped in a limited way. Mike had the gung-ho spirit at first, but he said this changed to a more mature insight of what was happening.” Mike felt he didn't come back with many questions answered. He said that on a tactical level the war is a gross insidious thing; neither side is right. We could have ended it long ago. I asked both Tom and 'Mike if they had any trouble readjusting to civilian life once they were discharged. Tom had little trouble readjusting but Mike said he had some trouble. Mike said that the time span from Viet Nam to California was only a matter of hours and that the changing of primary groups, that is, military life to civilian life, was so abrupt that it took some readjustment. 1
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